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Is he into me or not? (I'm getting whiplash here!)

Lauren Gray

Dear Lauren,

I’ve sort of been seeing this guy for 3 months. Right at the beginning we felt a connection but he told me he was not ready for a relationship. Then he added me on Facebook, invited me to his graduation party and on a ski vacation. We had a great time but sometimes he’d become distant with me. When we came back, he stayed over and we cuddled watching a movie. We’ve been texting since but when I invited him to my birthday party, he suddenly went silent and I haven’t heard from him in 3 days. What do I do? Is he into me or not?

-Nadine
 

Dear Nadine,
 
Talk about hot and cold! 

Men think women are the complicated one’s who are mysterious and give mixed confusing signals. What they don’t realize is that they can come across just as confusing and misleading!
 
However, you, my dear, have come to right place because I happen to be an expert in interpreting confusing men. I know a few a things about this guy and I promise I’ll fill you in. ;-)
 

The Answer.
 
He doesn’t want a relationship with you.
 
No, it’s not my psychic abilities that give me this knowing.
 
He actually TOLD you! He said that he’s not ready for a relationship. So many women hear these words and don’t give them the respect they deserve. Instead, they file them away under, “That’s how he’ll feel until he gets to know me and I change his mind” #muahaha#masterplan.
 
But if that’s the last you heard on the subject, THAT’s what you need to assume until he says otherwise.
 
Please don’t feel bad. He enjoys your company, he likes you, and he’s attracted to you. I’m sure of all these things. BUT that doesn’t mean he’s changed his mind.

A man can “like” you and still not want to commit to you.
 

The Play-by-Play.
 
At this moment his behavior seems totally random and sporadic. His mood swings are well on their way to giving you whiplash. I get it.

But there's actually a very thoughtful method to his confusing hot and cold madness.

Let me take it play-by-play:
 
In the beginning, he felt safe being friends with you after setting his boundary so he befriended you on Facebook. After all, he knew, YOU knew, he was off limits.
 
As you picked up the friendship, he enjoyed hanging out with you and he felt the intimacy and connection between you grow.

You were moving closer to him, but more specifically closer to his B-O-U-N-D-A-R-Y.
 
Right now, he is in a pickle. He likes and respects you too much to “hit it and quit it.” I know this because most guys who admire, enjoy, and are sexually attracted to a woman who not only likes them back but cuddles with them during a movie, well, most guys would tap that. Unless…
 
He wants to continue to spend time with you!
 
Right now he’s pulling away and acting cold because he’s trying to navigate this relationship without feeling like he has to defend himself against you and your expectations of him and the evolving relationship.
 
He’s not ready for a committed relationship but that doesn’t mean he’s not ready for a connection.
 

The Solution.
 
If you are okay having this friendship with him (albeit an intimate, touchy feely one), without any expectation of a relationship, then you need to let him know.
 
It will put his mind at ease and he will know that he can play, cuddle, laugh and hang out with you casually without fearing that he is leading you on or that he will have to hurt and reject you.
 
Despite the reputation some men get, NO man wants to hurt a woman’s feelings.
 
Here’s a script YOU can use to assure him of your intentions:


 “I have so much fun with you. And I know we haven’t talked about it in awhile but I want you to know that I totally respect that you aren’t looking for a relationship right now. I am. But please don’t feel any pressure like I’m looking for a relationship with you. I enjoy my time with you. That’s it.  I have no expectations of you or this friendship beyond good times and laughter. I hope you can make it to my birthday party. You’re a friend I look forward to getting to know better and it would make me really happy if you could swing by.”
 
See? Super casual. Super easy. There’s no heavy or “serious” talk there. You have let him know your honest intentions: you ARE looking for a relationship. That’s nothing to hide or be ashamed of.
 
This message, however, lets him know that should he change his mind, you are available.

More importantly, it also lets him off the hook. He won’t have to keep you at arms length to keep the boundary clear. He can feel free to come to your birthday party, cuddle and hang with you without feeling pressured for some sort of commitment to you.
 
The big fear he has is that he’s going to lead you on and let you down. He really likes you and he really doesn’t want to do this. That’s why he’s acting so sporadic.
 
Now, if you are NOT okay having just a friendship with him, then let him go. He’s not ready to be who you need him to be right now. Date other men. Many men are looking to be in a relationship RIGHT NOW. Look for them. They’re looking for you too.
 
With love,
Lauren
 
Now, I’d love to hear from you.
 
Have you ever heard a man say, “I’m not interested in relationship” and went on pretending like he did anyway? How did that work out? Did he change his mind?
 
How do YOU handle men who aren’t clear with their intentions?

 
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    This helped so much , it's honestly exactly what I'm going through !
  • Sarahhhhhhhh
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    This helped so much , it's honestly exactly what I'm going through !
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    Hi I am a student who started having feelings for a guy who is doing school with me.It was him who asked my number initially and asked me to text me to see if he received my number. It did as he said. After that it was almost chatting for atleast the next week.He told me about how he was in a relationship for 6 years and how timid the girl was as she could not go against her parents and get married to him. He told me that he then moved on to have another close which he didnot pursue as GF as they both felt that they had not much feelings into it.He is still in good friendly contacts with this girl. It was then that his ex did a drama and came back into his life and has since then remained in his life without any surity. He told my colleagues that they dont get along well and that they fight always even before he met me. He never had any close relationship with any girls other than me in my grp.He told me that even hf his ex comes , there is no guarantee from his side and career is his main focus and he is sick and tired of all the drama. Right from the beginning,he also wanted to know about my life.well i also had a broken relationship which i told him about and he was totally empathetic towards it. He wanted to meet up with me as through conversations he found me innocent and someone close he can confide on. Just on the day we had to meet up, he cancelled it saying that its better off us texting as he feels it is a distraction for both of our studies and that he doesnot want any relationship now and situations should not change. Well, I texted him back saying that all I wanted to be was a good friend to him and know him better. But he insisted we only chat and let destiny decide our tale. After that, we only chatted.The chat used to start friendly but will get intimate ultimately.He had inhibitions calling me as a friend although he opened out everything to me and was very intimate and close to me.The last day we chatted was 2 weeks ago. I kind of wanted to j...
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    Hello Lauren i have a similar issue just like some of the ladies on this site. I met a man back in April and had a breakfast date one day. We both agreed that we're not interested in a relationship. We started seeing each other ver often, he has taken me out to lunch and we also have been having sex (GREAT SEX) He has been very very consistent since day one. texting all the time and lately he has actually been calling "to hear my voice" rather than texting. He tells me he misses me, he wants me, thinking about me, thinking about spending time with me. After we depart from each other he texts me and tells me he enjoyed my company. At one point he asked me when will i spend the night with him.....with my big mouth i replied, "that's not what friends with benefits do" smh...he told my girlfriend that he was a little disappointed about my response. 2 weeks ago he took me out to lunch, a week ago Sunday he texts me and said he missed me and wished that i was right there laying next to him. It's been a week since i've heard from him. I don't understand him, sometimes he's hot then he's cold. i like him ALOT but because we both said we didn't want a relationship i don't know ho to turn off my feelings. I don't know what he wants....fwb's don't express their feelings the way that he does. He's 43 and i'm 31. he's been single for 10years (not in a committed relationship) i know i wrote alot but i hope that this message finds you in good health and that you can reply ASAP. thanks ...
  • Lauren Gray
     7/4/2014 12:54:24 PM
    Lady_art201, Glad you've been enjoying the blogs! This question is a little involved for the comments but if you'd like one-on-one support, I actually offer that in email advice packages here: http://www.marsvenus.com/lauren-gray-work-with-me.htm. Look forwarding to working with you if this sounds like something you'd like. :-)
  • LesMis1988
     7/1/2014 9:58:23 AM
    I could use some advice: I started working at this grocery store about 6 months ago, all the co-workers were nice.This one guy introduced himself, and then we had break together one day, he started asking if I had a boyfriend, why I was single and what type of guys I was into.I didn't think too much of it, just thought he was one of those overly interested guys.I was vague with my answers, but still friendly enough.A few months later, my brother-in law was in an accident, and I was upset at work, he comforted me by giving me a hug and kissed my hand and said "I'm here for you babe" Thought that was a little odd, but again passed it off as him being a friend when I needed one.Its been about six months now, and today, during break he asked about my work schedule, you know normal chatty stuff, and asked what I do on my long days off, I said I babysat.He then said "You need a man in your life, you shouldn't be sitting at home while the people you babysit for go out partying, that's not right.You need someone who likes you for you, someone who won't force you into partying, someone who wants to spend time with you. I'm like yeah I know, I haven't met anyone yet.Then he asked "How old are you" I told him, and he asked "What's the age cap that you would date someone" I gave an answer and he said.. ou wouldn't consider someone over that age?" he kept asking this in different ways, I said well age doesn't really matter, as long as he's not younger than me and not old enough to be my dad. He asked me if I knew one of our other co-workers (kept this name out for privacy purposes) and I said a little bit..I thought he was gonna suggest I go out with this other worker lol, but he said "He says I should take out to dinner.Your the perfect woman for me Then a few weeks later, I was leaving work he was in the break room for lunch.He asked "When do you work next"...
  • Lady_art201
     6/30/2014 10:54:02 AM
    cont (part3) But I'm stuck, in a zone where I'm getting all kinds of signals from him, my feelings grow deeper, but he's dating a mysterious someone else, and he could be so odd that perhaps the signals i'm picking up are his attempts at being nice. ..help. :( p.s. EXCUSE the stupid long post. I'm truly sorry and understand if it's just too much to respond to. But this is such a subtle game, that I had to explain it all! I appreciate your time regardless.
  • Lady_art201
     6/30/2014 10:52:46 AM
    cont (part2)- Now I go to dinner with a mutual friend of ours, and I'm not sure how but he mentioned that Mr. B was seeing someone else at the time. Which is weird, we go to a lot of social functions together, and I've never heard him talk, or bring the person he's dating. We continued to hang out and every time he opens up more.He invited me and some friends to a BBQ his family was throwing.. by the end of the day his father and step mother both asked me if I could consider their boy. They called me daughter by the end of that night! I've fallen for him really hard. We went to an event together in which my ex was there. My ex has made it public he wants to get back together with me.. so he would show up and interrupt every time Mr. B and I would talk. After this event Mr. B didn't contact me at all. Two weeks after in another event, the same friend who pointed out his stares to me, asked him out of curiosity if there was something going on. She told me " He said nothing was going on, so casually it felt true" I thought he would stop calling or stop hanging out because people have been suspecting something is going on between us. If he truly felt nothing (and if he was dating someone else) then he would distance himself, right? I would! But no, instead he called me to meet him at a bar two days after ( with friends that didn't show up) and we spent the night talking. He even took me to his house and lent me some DVDS! In fact this last week, we all went out and he taught me how to partner dance. We danced the night, he twirled me constantly, held on to me, encouraged me. When I would break off to dance on my own, it wouldn't be too long till he would grab my hand and twirl me some more. I'm not sure what's happening Lauren! I want this friendship to continue so I'm afraid to step up and just ask him. But I'm stuck, in a zone where I'm getting all kinds of signals from h...
  • Lady_art201
     6/30/2014 10:46:02 AM
    Hello Lauren! Big time fan here. Now I wanted to send you a letter on this subject, but i found this thread and well, it made sense to post here as I'm in a similar situation. It started 1 year ago, at the time I was with my ex, and Mr. B all of the sudden wanted to hang out a lot. Now we know each other for about 7 years but as distant acquaintances. We both work in the same field, are both considered top of our field and have a ton of mutual friends. He invited me to his birthday ( to which I attended with my ex) , and asked me to hang out a lot last year. He was warm to me, but oddly cold to my ex. We were both at a workshop teaching classes last November. A friend of mine came up to me and told me a curious observation about him. That he would follow me with his gaze everywhere. Now I thought she was kind of insane, because seriously.. this guy is just too handsome for me, and I was certain he wouldn't display such affections as I personally don't think I'm his type. Seriously he looks like Brad Pitt, he dates gorgeous models. I'm adorable but I'm not a model. Well anyways, I started paying attention and realizes he was staring at me always! I paid no real mind to it because I was trying to keep my old relationship together... and seriously he dates models, not ladies like me. Now this last December I ended the relationship with my ex( we've been together 6 years, and in those 6 years he constantly abused me verbally. Sometimes I feared he would abuse me physically as well... It was just awful.). On February Mr. B started approaching me, and suddenly we're hanging out 2-3 times a week for months and months. Always happy to see me, always dilated pupils, always grooming himself, always standing/sitting next to me. Now as handsome as he is, this guy is pretty quiet and can be a bit of an odd person (he can be quiet and awkward to even his family and closest friends!), but he opens up and we can ta...
  • Seïla
     6/15/2014 9:11:54 AM
    Well, it seems more complicated than I thought... And actually hurting to realize it will go nowhere. I know I will never have the courage to use the template script. I tried to tell him something similar 3 times over the past 6 months, the latest being a few days ago, and I didn't manage ... I haven't just dreamed his attraction to me - feelings/emotions only as we carefully (!) don't touch each other - but yet I have to give it up. If not I will just drop dead one day, "dead from unfulfilled hopes"... I will try to go on. Thanks Lauren, it is good to know what this close/distant thing is about. It is quite disruptive for me but having been deeply hurt some years ago, I am already happy that I can feel my heart fully awaken now. I will find the one one day. Thanks again to all for sharing....
  • Guest_792DA74C-C
     5/18/2014 4:56:46 PM
    Hey Lauren, Thanks heaps for your video. Has helped me clear a lot of confusion about a Guy I met a few months ago with virtually the same reaction <3
  • cutestar95
     3/25/2014 2:26:23 AM
    continuing on my prev post....he would call my room mate and chk on my mood or discuss the conflict with her. but never answer any of my msgs to close the conflict. I told my room mate that the whole calling her and chking on me business made me feel unsafe ( which is true) and she called me crazy. I told her i didnt feel like trusting anyone and she promised to not get into our buisness again. later she ran to him and cried on his shoulder saying that I was trying to harm her because of him. he yelled at me and ended the friendship. Now, I ended up feeling confused, betrayed and lost. So, what was my place in the boys life ? a friend ? someone to use or play with or did he have romantic interest ? what was the whole deal of calling my room mate ? insecurity ? or revenge ? I told him several times, if he needed space let me know, and call me when he is done but he NEVER did it. Never !!! what was that ? was I of no value to him ? and so he did it , was he just stonewalling ? please just clear my confusion cause I am tired of trying to figure people out and keeping them from harming me...
  • cutestar95
     3/25/2014 2:17:20 AM
    Hi Lauren, I know it is a slightly older post but i am hoping for a reply, I have a similar situation with this guy, and I am thoroughly confused. At first I was just friendly with him and was oblivious to anything more than that. ( but apparently at that time, he was avoiding me because he thought I had a crush on him, I sort of picked up on it but dismissed it thinking i was imagining things). Then, he started to do things that i felt were very not "just friendly". A lot of touching me and tickling me, I am very ticklish and i dont like being tickled. but he would keep doing it and i would keep whining that he was scaring me and he would ask why it scared me. he would touch my waist or put his leg next to mine, and watch my expression which was usually confused ( he is american and I am a conservative asian and very slow on picking up on things romantic, i usually wondered if it was just friendly.) and then one day we were planning his move to another state, and he asked me to come with him. I was surprised, and I told him i couldnt, and he said i was breaking his heart. on his birthday, he said all he wanted was my smile. during the same period we had a couple of spats, once we added a class together and decided to be partners and he joined someone else, when i asked him about it, he was mad at me and said we were acting like couples. ( i was shocked because I was only saying things because I dont like being ditched in the last minute by my friends). he told me i was suffocating him by sending all the messages trying to talk to him about our fights. i disconnected my phone. later he came and said sorry and we sort of made up. so yeah, and i asked him while we were star gazing one night, that sometimes some of his actions and words didnt seem just friendly and he said he was just kidding. Moreover he had this tendency of never answering my calls or messages when I am upset about something he did, he would instead call my room mate and check on my moods
  • Lauren Gray
     3/7/2014 1:40:04 PM
    PureLove, Thanks for your share. As long as you're getting your needs met and you're enjoying yourself then it's fine that he's getting his needs met. BUT if you're holding out for him to change and you're giving to him only to bide time until he can give you what you need then I recommend that you draw some boundaries and stop being so available to him. You deserve to have your needs met and you can still be a good friend and a good person even if you're not doing everything for him and being everything to him. You can always pick it up later when (and if) he's more available to give you what you need. ...
  • PureLove
     3/5/2014 12:25:11 PM
    My story is a bit different in that I have known the guy for 23 years as a friend. We met through work and kept in touch. We had one romantic incident (just a kiss) but at the time I was working overseas and the kiss was at the end of a dinner when I was home. I had no idea there was anything romantic. We kept in touch while I was overseas for 4 years just as friends. He met someone and got married - I was invited to the wedding and went. I always felt a nice friendship with him however I was not part of his married life. He even told me once that I was "his" friend when I jokingly asked why I am not invited to the house for dinner. We live in different cities and rarely see each other but do have a comfortable connection when we do have the opportunity to grab lunch/dinner if I am in his city for work. They had 3 kids and had what seemingly was a great relationship. Fast forward to 18 - 19 years later and she has divorced him last year. I happened to be in his city recently and reached out to see how he was doing. We reconnected after 3 - 4 years of not really being in touch and nothing seemed to have changed with our comfort. He was very open with the divorce but seemed very angry (understandably). However I started to realize that "she" was always at fault of the divorce in his stories. I tried to stay objective but now realize that he may be extremely Passive Aggressive/Borderline Narcissistic Personality. He kissed me on a night out over the holidays and it felt very natural however he never moved forward with any other normal forms of communication. The text messages were very personal and intimate with family information but that was about it. I realize that he was using his comfort with me to get him what he needed in validation and i (as a nice giving friend) gave it to him. I do not know if this is who he is or if this is a product of his bad marriage from what I can assume is also a narcissistic manipulator ex-wife.
  • Lady_Bella
     1/3/2014 7:26:45 PM
    Thanks for advice Lauren. I will be careful and set the boundaries so that this friendship doesn't get touchy feely and so its clear to him that I can only be his friend. Love your advice - it's funny, but so clear and practical and down to earth. You're awesome!
  • Lauren Gray
     1/2/2014 12:12:17 PM
    JPerky3010, I Love it! What a great example of direct, clear, compassionate, and lighthearted communication. My only addition would simply be to remind you to live your life in the mean time and not put things on pause "waiting" for him. But it sounds like this is already your attitude. :-)
  • jperky3010
     1/2/2014 10:40:50 AM
    I have a similar situation. Met this guy in July (who said he just wanted to be friends) and started seeing each other fairly regular & text pretty much every day. We enjoyed each other's company & became touchy-feelly, cuddling on the couch, kissing, I even spent the night a few times (at his request) although we did sleep in separate beds (one of those times was for a couple of days when I had some vacation from work). Then he started to pull away and we had a bit of "argument" for lack of a better word around the end of Oct and I didn't see him again until the first of Dec. Saw each other a few times eventhough he was a bit stand-offish than he was before. So I asked him to come over New Years Eve & he declined. I then told him that as the new year approaches he needs to decide if & how he wants me in his life, that I wasn't going to force him (he pretty much told his 18yr old daughter who is away at college & who he is always making the effort to talk to her the same thing so I just took a page from his book & told him that). Told him that he would probably hear from me from time to time but if we spent time together it would have to be his call. I keep it has light-hearted as I could through texting, so now I wait and see what happens. :-)...
  • Lauren Gray
     1/1/2014 11:39:17 AM
    Carebear33, Great question! And I think it would make a great blog post as well! Off the top of my head you could say something like, "I've really enjoyed getting to know you better these past 4 months. I love spending time with you! We have a blast together. I guess I'm just wondering where we stand. What is this? Are we just friends? Are we in a relationship? Are we exclusive? I personally am looking to be in a relationship and if you're not there yet that's fine. But I'd love to just have a straight up conversation about what this is and where you think it's going." DO NOT start this conversation with the words, "WE NEED TO TALK." Have a lighthearted casual attitude, leave any intensity at the door. And at the end, give him space to think. Do not interrupt him. And do not take his silence personally, it's just him thinking. Best way to handle anything is with compassion and be direct. Hope this helped!!...
  • Lauren Gray
     1/1/2014 11:29:28 AM
    Hi Lady_Bella. I've been there before. And yes, it's like this blog post says but switched. It's your job to be really clear about your intentions. Not once, not twice, but consistently confront the fact that you are not interested in a relationship and that a friendship is all you can give him. In general, I would recommend that you stop being touchy feely with him. A man's brain can listen to your boundary but when you're actions are stirring his "other brain" it's hard for him to get real clear on the dynamic....
  • Lauren Gray
     1/1/2014 11:23:56 AM
    DisaJyoti, you have to decide how much of your time and recourses you want to invest in this flaky guy. I personally wouldn't put all your eggs in this one basket. Instead of sending (what could be taken as) a passive aggressive text that implied that he's done something wrong, ask for an update. In the future, say something like, "Hi! Just checkin in. I'm really looking forward to New Years (or whatever the event is). Do you have an update on whether you'll be able to make it or not? It should be a really fun night!" Can you see the difference between these two? In your text, he has to start his response with an apology and an admission of guilt, "Sorry I haven't gotten back to you..." In my version of the text, he has the opportunity to a) participate in something really fun and b) make you happy by showing up because you're looking forward to it. He knows he'll be accepted. Hope this helped! Try this technique out with him and see if it makes a difference. :-)...
  • Carebear33
     12/31/2013 1:12:45 PM
    Hi Lauren, I'm wondering how to figure out if he wants to be in a relationship if he hasn't said he doesn't want to be. I suppose the answer would be that he would ask me out...but in my case he hasn't. We've been dating 4 months now, everything is great but I'd like more. How do I find out if he wants to take this to the next level? Do you have a script to find out where we stand?
  • Lady_Bella
     12/30/2013 10:15:21 AM
    Hi Lauren, Awesome blog! I am in a similar relationship, except that in my case, he's Nadine! I'm the one who has said that I am not ready for a relationship..right now. But I feel that this is turning into a touchy feely friendship. I have no problems about being friends with him - I really enjoy his company and we have a great connection. He insists that he wants to be friends with me... Does this work the same way in reverse? I am scared that I may end up hurting him.
  • DisaJyoti
     12/29/2013 7:47:47 AM
    I just love you Lauren...you're a goof ball like me :) Anyhow, I'm in a similar situation as Nadine but this "friend" says he DOES want a relationship. Although we are long distance (2 hour drive) from one another, every time I make a plan with him, it has fallen through. So, I took a long look at myself and discovered that I too had my armor up, and I now have released that. I invited him to bring in the New Years with me 2 days ago, and he said that he was working at would get back to me after work. Did not happen. Now what? I sent him a message this morning that read "so do I take this as a no?"- am awaiting his response....


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